RappFLOW Advisory Committee
Notes from Oct 6 Advisory Committee Meeting
RappFLOW Advisory Committee Founding Meeting
October 6, 2005
Washington Town Hall
Advisors (left to right):
Todd Benson. Resettlement Road near Flint Hill. Environmental lawyer
with Fauquier County government.
Kathy Poush. Gid Brown Hollow. Information technologist.
Mike Focazio. Hume. Hydrologist with USGS.
Monira Rifaat. Covington River watershed. Beef cattle farmer. Serves
on Culpeper Soil & Water Conservation Board of Directors.
Charlie Strittmatter. Flint Hill. Chairman, Rappahannock County Planning
Jeff Smith, South of Sperryville in Hazel watershed. Environmental lawyer.
Tom Taylor, Sperryville; Builder in Rappahannock County.
Dick McNear. Gid Brown Hollow. Beef cattle farmer. Was county planner.
Serves on VA Soil & Water Conservation Board. (not in picture).
Volunteer Contributions to the Event
Stan Berns. Set-up.
Tim Bondelid. Summary of RappFLOW’s data challenges.
Louise and Tim Bondelid. Food.
Sarah Gannon. Presentation: How to engage land owners in the Upper Thornton
Bev Hunter. Maps and exhibits, land owner questionnaire, event coordinator.
Hal Hunter. Printing, venue, set-up.
Marybeth Martin. Coffee, set-up.
Cliff Miller. Recruiting.
Larry Oliver. Maps.
Mitzi Young. Greeter.
Other RappFLOW Hosts for the event: Reid Folsom; Margaret Strawser;
Khalil Hassan (Madison County); Joy Lorien (Page County); Kenny Giles;
Pam Owen; Cliff Miller; Jeannie McNear.
Funding for venue: RLEP
Goals for the Meeting
Monira Rifaat served as chairperson for this meeting. She announced
the goals of the meeting:
Advisors and volunteers get to know each other and how their interests
and talents relate to the RappFLOW mission and operations.
Advisors provide advice to volunteers concerning how to engage land
owners in the Upper Thornton River watershed study.
As a way of addressing the goals of the meeting, individual Advisors
challenged RappFLOW volunteers to develop answers to a series of questions.
These questions included the following:
What are the citizens’ concerns about watersheds and water
quality in Rappahannock County’s watersheds?
Why should a land owner care about water quality in the streams?
What arguments or incentives can you offer to a land owner that will
persuade him to improve his land management practices?
What are the Planning Commission’s concerns about watersheds
and water quality?
Why does RappFLOW focus on individual land owner decisionmaking?
How does RappFLOW define a healthy or impaired watershed? How does
RappFLOW define a healthy or impaired stream?
Does RappFLOW use the same definitions for “impaired” as
What are the threats to water quality in Rappahannock County?
What is RappFLOW’s strategic plan?
Is RappFLOW ready to establish a more formal organization and structure?
Advisors suggested some partial answers to some of the above questions.
Running water is no longer acceptable for cattle. Need alternative
Love the Chesapeake bay crabs. We don’t get those crabs like
we once did. (Importance of cleaning up the Rappahannock River Basin.)
On the planning commission, we need to keep streams clean from overdevelopment.
Chesapeake Bay Agreement. Ominous threat if there are not improvements
by 2010. Localities have had authority to do something about water
quality. Rappahannock county community will be well poised to stay
independent of mandates from federal government. One thing people
might care is that they can get money now to clean up the streams,
maybe later the money will not be available.
Some problems are solvable by coercion – pets, driveway erosion,
--if it is a human induced problem, you can do it by coercion. For
the farmers, you have to have a carrot.
I recommend that rappflow adopt the standards of DEQ. AND we are
the grassroots citizen orgs that will study our streams for those
parameters. Somewhere along the line DEQ will need citizaen groups
to work with the landowners, we are that group. When they compute
the TMDL they will need the grassroots org.
RappFLOW Volunteers’ Response to Advisory Committee
Several RappFLOW volunteers expressed their appreciation for the Advisors’ questions
and stated that by asking these questions the Advisory Committee is serving
the intended purpose.
Subsequent to the meeting, volunteers decided to post the Advisors’ questions,
and RappFLOW answers to the questions, on the RappFLOW web site as a
means of improving communications and building knowledge among this community.
RappFLOW volunteers also requested further assistance from members of
the Advisory Committee, in helping to recruit more farmers to serve on
RappFLOW Advisory Committee Members